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Zvachim Daf 51 - Sacrifices - eternal flame on the alter

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Sacrifices Page SA - eternal flame on the altar

Talmud page SA Page B which deals with the altars of Israel sacrificed their victims to built the temple. By the way the discussion, quoting the Talmud Briita interesting (from at Dar world ");

"Fire came down from heaven on Moses - not get over the altar of brass, but on a whole, and fire down on a whole - do not get out until the Menashe removed."

The Gemara discusses how exactly to interpret the baraita, what exactly was the fire at times when the Tabernacle was Nov Givon. But the obvious point baraita Gemara is the point sequence. - Ie a fire burning on the altar came from heaven, and stopped for a moment. However, she stopped on a whole, but rather is not stopped, but was replaced by another heavenly fire. Her fire burned on the altar until the time of Manasseh, the most evil king in the Kingdom of the house of Judah, who in his day was derived decree of destruction. Cave continuity celestial fire on the altar is in line with the Torah commandments at the beginning of Parshat "Order";

"Fire on the altar minutes it will not turn off ... always fire on the altar minutes will not turn off."

If so, the general message emerging from both the verses and the baraita is that on the altar continuously burning fire A - Heath.

Now, the Talmud tractate Yoma (as a page in the page) renews:

"Although the fire descends from heaven commands to the layman."

That is, there is also need human initiative, and be content with fire huh - Heath. Although the first fire - Heath did not go out for centuries, but every day the priest also helped her up and brought the layman.

Duty to bring fire from the layman Yoma simply quoted above. However, two other issues (Eruvin page SG, Yoma page NJ) describes the Talmud with this rumor: Nadab. Two sons of Aaron resumed this went, and ordered her to the rabbi - Moses. infringement brought great honor them with severe punishment.

The message emerging from this very clear. Nadab and understood, not enough fire heavenly Ubaitarota Dlayla. Every action, even the most sacred place, the initiative also requires a human. This assertion has been received theory. But, that Aaron wanted to take a step further and develop the human enterprise to a foreign fire sacrifice, not ordered it. At this point they "crossed the border", the punishment is clear: the same divine fire, with which they are supposedly "competing" and seek to bring the layman - actually it came out and burned them alive.

If so, despite the great importance of human participation and actions, it is important to recognize and acknowledge the human initiative within the place.

But given the other point below Sugyitino, it seems that the message is even more complex. The Talmud discusses the altar built on the island of exile in Ezra, and explains that he was bigger from the altar in the house first. Gemara wondered about it, since there is no doubt that the Israeli public was much smaller, and why, then, is needed is a large altar? The Gemara resolves:

"Heaven's fire signed Msiitan, Ahacha no fire of heaven Msiitan."

The fire was central to the first house, and stopped for one moment for centuries, was missing in the second. The second house was based entirely on the fire from the layman - the human initiative.

And what about the limits of human initiative? To answer this question should be discussed in detail the case of return to Zion and the time of Ezra, is not the place for it. Suffice note, birth pangs of the Second Temple were multiple. Construction involved internal and external opposition, and in fact for hundreds of years when the house was intact, it seems that the reality was not perfect. But as we know, this is our salvation of Israel - Akim'a Akim'a. It is quite possible, that during the first redemption, you should prefer a full human initiative. Although many think that the age of salvation is the era of Aitarota Dlayla absolute Msogyitino indicate that the opposite is true: the era of redemption is the era of Aitarota Dlatta. In the Second Temple period were waiting for the fire add spinach from heaven, and won it. But with Israel is not giving up. We add and waiting, fully confident that, ultimately, by Aitarota Dlatta, we will inspired by what he called a drop fire from heaven, and return to a more complete reality, which combines the obligation to bring the layman, with heavenly eternal flame is not constant.
Rabbi Avihud Schwartz

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